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		<title>501xx Forums &#187; Topic: poscogrubb&#039;s introduction</title>
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			<title>poscogrubb on "poscogrubb&#039;s introduction"</title>
			<link>http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/poscogrubbs-introduction#post-627</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Yesterday I sent my 501 STF's through the washer for the very first time, with a bunch of other older jeans in the load... turned inside-out, cold water, a little bit of detergent, short cycle, hang dry.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The results: Fading is not that noticeable, except at the bottom hems where the denim rubs my heels (not saying that I wear heels  &#38;lt;img src=&#38;quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_wink.gif&#38;quot; title=&#38;quot;;)&#38;quot; class=&#38;quot;bb_smilies&#38;quot; /&#38;gt;  ). The creases there and behind the knees seem to have been preserved. The denim is definitely not as rough as before. There has been shrinkage, but I haven't measured how much. It's not as snug as I'd like, so next time I buy STF's, I'll have to try a 33&#34; waist.
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			<title>scotty on "poscogrubb&#039;s introduction"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 00:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;You have a great appreciation for Levi's 501s!  Let us know how your new STF jeans do.  I am about to start over with a pair myself.
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			<title>Edmund X White on "poscogrubb&#039;s introduction"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi poscogrubb! great to have you here, sounds like you have lots of experience with 501's.
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			<title>Kane on "poscogrubb&#039;s introduction"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Welcome poscogrubb, glad to have another 501 STF fan aboard!
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			<title>poscogrubb on "poscogrubb&#039;s introduction"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi y'all,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I can't believe it has taken me this long to find this forum!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am a 501xx fan, born in the 1970s, which dates me as an 80's kid. In pre-teen years, I loved seeing tight Levi's jeans on people, and all the more when they were worn down and a little ripped, and combined with a pair of Converse Chuck Taylor high-tops. I especially liked the fade pattern on the outer seam when the two pieces of denim are flattened apart. I don't know how to describe it. For a long time, many jeans had the two pieces of denim sewed together on the inside of the outer seam. But on 501's, they were flattened apart, giving a symmetrical look to the fade pattern. Does ANYONE know what I'm talking about?!? Anyway, that, and the button fly drew me to 501's, although I didn't really know the model number until I got my first pair around 7th grade! They were a dark, rinsed blue, not STF.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Later, during college, I realized what the difference was between 501 and 501xx (pre-shrunk vs. STF -- but not nowadays), and I also noticed the change in denim weight. I started shopping at second-hand clothing stores, and I noticed that 501's of the 70's and 80's definitely had a &#34;richer&#34; feel to them, and nice fade patterns, too.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Also noticed (and confused by) the loosening in fit, the change in labeling (use of capital XX instead of lower case xx), the deeper V back-pocket stitching, and the double-stitched inseam using two yellow threads instead of the orange thread and blue thread. Why did I notice such details, and why did I yearn for the jeans exactly as they were in my teen years? I don't know.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anyway, I still like wearing (out) my STF 501's, and I look forward to participating in the discussions here, when my time permits.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Some other details:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I measure W33, L32.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My latest pair of STF's is W34, L34, started wearing in January 2010. It has gone through two bath-tub soakings, no launderings. I haven't been wearing it daily; maybe about 30 hours a week. It's a little loose; should have gone with W33.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm Asian American; live in Los Angeles. So, yeah, I'm a city kid, so I don't wear jeans for hard work generally. But I like to see (and touch) jeans that have been through genuine hard work. mmmmm. maybe it's a fetish?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--posco&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;EDITED to add photos to illustrate outer seam fade patterns:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/u9MvG5tw2ckQfAxgqHZHxg?feat=directlink&#34;&#62;Levi's 501, preshrunk, bought in 2003, made in Guatemala:&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hlBgTVEN_f8Gc7kUC6ZS_A?feat=directlink&#34;&#62;Levi's 501 STF, bought in 2008, made in Dominican Republic, with &#34;symmetrical&#34; fade pattern:&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
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