http://forums.nedsferatu.com/tags/501xx-stf You can find us in da tub... en-US Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:18:48 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://forums.nedsferatu.com/search.php http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/changes-to-501s-sizes/page/2#post-936 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:45:11 +0000 Throwback 936@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi Marius and welcome! &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>There's a very good chance your 501s aren't as high as they used to be. There have been many changes to the 501s throughout the years, and so they're radically different than the original Levi's miners used to wear. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/changes-to-501s-sizes/page/2#post-935 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:20:08 +0000 Marius 935@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I dunno if this forum is still allive. But is it true that the old 501s were higher in the waist?</p> <p>Because I just bought some brand new ones, and I wish they were higher. I have a hard time believing these were the kind of pants physical workers like gold miners used. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/changes-to-501s-sizes/page/2#post-809 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 01:31:16 +0000 Ziggyman44 809@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I've worn button=fly 501's for years. But lately, they don't seem to fit as comfortably. Specifically, the inseam does not fit snugly against my crotch, but rides down an inch or so and chafes on my thighs. Has there been some change to the cut? Or is it just my mid-life changes that I'm feeling? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/1947-lvc-501s-vs-stf-501s-vs-preshrunk-501s-sizing#post-807 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:50:04 +0000 scotty 807@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I wear a 33x32 in the preshrunks for a nice fit. I bought a pair of 34x34 shrink to fits - indigo 501-0000 - jeans and after washing twice, the fit is very nice and similar to my preshunks. The waist in the STFs is a bit more firm and so feels slightly "tighter" but that is because the new preshrunks have lighter weight denim and stretch a bit more. My length is absolutely perfect. When raw, the 34s are a bit looser but again with the thicker denim they are not as forgiving as the light weight preshrunks (especially the 11.5 oz preshrunks!) so they can be worn raw at an inch higher than my preshrunks without sliding off my butt. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/1947-lvc-501s-vs-stf-501s-vs-preshrunk-501s-sizing#post-806 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 22:17:24 +0000 Quinn 806@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Nobody? :/ </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/1947-lvc-501s-vs-stf-501s-vs-preshrunk-501s-sizing#post-805 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:10:10 +0000 Quinn 805@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi guys, new to the forum! This great site got me all excited to try out a pair of raw denim but I have a few questions on sizing. I'd like to start with a pair of STFs or maybe higher quality LVC 1947 501s. My question is, how do I size the 501STF so that the fit is exactly the same as my modern fit (non-antifit) preshrunk 501s? I wear a size 32 in preshrunk 501s that stretch out comfortably, so if I go with 32 STFs will that give the same fit or will it be even slimmer? What about LVCs, should I go up to a size 33 for the same fit (I've heard the new 501 fit is the same as the 1947 fit, but I've also read that 1947s are even slimmer, which is correct?)?</p> <p>Thanks in advance! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/changes-to-501s-sizes/page/2#post-779 Sat, 16 Oct 2010 00:01:50 +0000 Pelc 779@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I am new on that excellent forum.</p> <p>What I found out last days, unfortunately, levis 501 style can be different even in the same season.</p> <p>I have 2 pairs of dark 501:</p> <p>- Marlon, coded 501.0162 (rinsed dark indigo), 2010, size 32x34<br /> - Med Dimension Dry, coded 501.0782 (dry, dark indigo), 2010, size 32x34</p> <p>You can find both of them on eu.levi.com, bought in autorised Levi's store.<br /> The different is in front pockets shapes and in coin pocket size (sic!).<br /> Front pockets in 501.0782 are so tight and small for my big hands, where in 501.0162 are fine and comfortable.</p> <p>Width of coin pocket in Med Dimensional Dry 501.0782 is 3,5 inch.<br /> Width of coin pocket in Marlon 501.0162 is 4 inch.</p> <p>To be honest with you, Levi's is unpredictible. They can not keep the same style, as they said they would do (both models based on 1947 edition).</p> <p>I thought that every, each model is precisely described, specified in Levi's company in order to give specification for factories around the world.</p> <p>PS. Sorry about my poor English... </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/ask#post-645 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:01:43 +0000 rangers 645@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>if you want a snug fit, you'll have to start over with a size about 31 or 32 waist and a 32 leg. the waist will be tight for a few days, but they strech out a inch or so after some wear. Kane's advice is prety accurate on sizes also. good luck. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/ask#post-643 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:31:33 +0000 bebekbaik 643@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Kine thanks.<br /> I bought the 34X34 size. whereas my actual size 32X30,<br /> My reactors nearly three-hour soak in cold water but not getting the results I want .. at the feet still long .. I need to do? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/ask#post-642 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:42:11 +0000 Kane 642@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi bebekbaik, if your STF's are W 34, then the actual measured W of your pantalons is probably between 36"-37", since vanity sizing is the order of the day. Therefore, you will need to shrink 'em down about 5" to fit your 32" waist(if that is in fact your measured waist) and this unfortunately aint gonna happen. In a cold water soak of about 20 minutes, you'll be looking at about 1.5" of shrinkage but that will all come back with a few days of wear. For someone with a measured waist size of 32", then the size of STF's to get is W 30 for a perfect fit or W 31 for slightly looser. Having said that, the sizes tend to vary so its best to try them on in the store and they should fit snugly around the waist.</p> <p>**measured waist size = with a tape measure, pulled snugly, around your torso where you like your jeans to sit. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/ask#post-641 Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:54:36 +0000 bebekbaik 641@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I just bought two pieces STF, indigo and black color, size 34X34<br /> and my waist size 32X30 ..<br /> I want to soak in COLD water so that indigo is not lost .. I want to ask, how long to soak in cold water to fit in my waist?</p> <p>thanks </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-625 Tue, 11 May 2010 15:05:40 +0000 Edmund X White 625@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Thanks for the comment PlantCrone, and welcome to the forums! Your experience and insight is a great addition to our team of jean enthusiasts! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-619 Thu, 06 May 2010 20:07:27 +0000 scotty 619@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Would love to see you in a pair of 501s PlantCrone! 501s on women look awesome &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-613 Wed, 05 May 2010 13:27:13 +0000 PlantCrone 613@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi Ned-big thanks for the classic STF 501 article. I was tryin to explain to one of my grandkids the proper way to STF his new 501s and he didn't believe old Nana knew what she was talking about. I was one of those old so cal hippies who used to shrink her 501s in the ocean..also surfed with them on many times...I'm a very pale skinned woman and would burn badly so I had to surf with long pants and shirts on...a sight to see!</p> <p>Because I'm slender hipped,(OK-I have no butt-been the bane of my life as a woman forever) I've worn 501s for 40 years @ work...climbing telephone poles. They just can't be beat for long wear, especially when bought on sale..and as a single parent, I was all for long wearing jeans back then. When I retired I bought a couple pair of womens jeans.....but they are never long enough for me. It appears that women's clothing manufacturers think all of us are 5'5" or something. I'm 5'9" with long legs and have to buy $150.00 women's jeans to get the length....thats just sick when 501s fit great for $36.00 on sale. Decided to go back to 501s this year, now that the tres expensive women's jeans have shrunk so bad--turning them into capris.</p> <p>I buy (if I can find them) 33x38 or 40 STF 501s, do the hot water initial shrink, wear them in the yard for a couple of weeks then wash in cold water in the washer. I usually do another hot water soak after that and wear them to dry after they have hung overnight (if it's summer). Tried the pre-shrunk 501s in 31x36 and it's easy to wear, soft right out of the first washing-but have found they tend to shrink up pretty bad over time, even in washed cold, if you dry 'em in the dryer.</p> <p>Wish I could find black STF 501s near me....didn't even know they were available.</p> <p>Great information Ned-thanks a lot again.</p> <p>PlantCrone in Orygun </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-612 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:18:16 +0000 Edmund X White 612@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi Tim,</p> <p>Yes these are the same pair. I had the crotch hole patched and haven't had any more issues with that. There are holes emerging on the cuffs but i don't think i'm going to do anything about them. I'll post more pics soon! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-610 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:08:19 +0000 Tim 610@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi Ned,</p> <p>Enjoyed the update on your STF 501s. I agree that STFs should only be hand washed. You can control the water temperature better and the shrinkage. Also, the washing machine and especially the dryer are too hard on the fabric. Blue dye leaks out of even my oldest STFs. After washing, I have to wear them around the house a bit to get them back to fitting my body just right.</p> <p>BTW, are you still working on that same pair of STFs that you broke in on your honeymoon? They were getting holes in some of the wrong places with the last photos you posted. Please let us see photos of how these old 501s are doing now. Thanks! Tim </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-609 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:51:29 +0000 Edmund X White 609@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>did another wash 2 days ago and they keep looking better and better. I'm now convinced handwashing is the only way to go because it keeps the creases for additional wear-in. they are getting higher contrast and i'm still washing away blue. Here's what i did:</p> <p>cold water with a few squirts of dr. bronners<br /> soaked inside out for 20 minutes or so<br /> aggitated them a bit and rinsed them a bit but not too much (this is a benefit of using dr b's)<br /> dry flat </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-578 Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:26:49 +0000 poscogrubb 578@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I recall reading somewhere (Levi's website, maybe) -- and this may be obsolete now -- that trademark law was that a registered trademark could not consist of words or letters. So, in order to maintain the registered trademark of the red tab, they had to make a certain number of jeans with just the red tab and (R) symbol.</p> <p>I remember getting my first pair of 501's with the (R) tab and wondering if they were counterfeits! Since then, I've always preferred having the name on the tab. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/changes-to-501s-sizes/page/2#post-570 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:34:03 +0000 scotty 570@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Having now a pair of preshunk 501s in the lightweight "dark aged", I can tell the difference between my new shrink to fits (no XX on the tag sadly and the preshrunks. The preshrunks seem to fit a little better in the rear, slightly higher and wider back pockets and a bit more fit in the theighs. The back yoke is also not as low on the preshrunks. I wish the STFs were like these except still maintain the thick denim </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/changes-to-501s-sizes/page/2#post-569 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:50:03 +0000 Kane 569@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Im lovin' my brand spanking new pair of 501 STF's and on a cursory glance, i can't help but be awed by how much they resemble the 1947 jean. Which brings me to the point i want to make about the ever changing style of the 501 STF jean. I mentioned in another post that i had no idea why i had lost my interest in 501 STF jeans back in the late 80's but now it is clear. Part of the reason was because of a taste aberration on my part - namely Marithe Francois Girbaud but the primary reason for 'gettin out' was due to the style of the 501's at the time. The fit was slim and the waist seemed too low. What irked me even more, however, was the placement and design of the rear pockets. They were way too small and placed too high up on the rear and the arcuates were not deep. The only reference i had at the time was the occasional photo of the vintage levi's that were hot in japan and this influence had somewhat filtered into Vancouver. I was not a denim head by any means but i knew what i liked. Flash forward 20 odd years and LS&amp; Co have outdone themselves with a bang up job on their latest offering - huge, low slung pockets with a deep arcuate, straight, semi wide legs and opening. WONDERFUL!! One last word to you Ned: why dont you like all CAPS? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-492 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:56:30 +0000 Klaus 492@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Ned, this is a great in-depth article about your 501XXs! You got an awesome contrast fade with the no-wash approach. Makes me wonder again why some choose LVC and even more expensive jeans as the stock STFs can achieve a silmilar result for much less money. It’s super you share your experience with us, thanks! You have a lovely cat, by the way. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-490 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:13:01 +0000 Edmund X White 490@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>sneak preview of the post</p> <p><a href="http://blog.nedsferatu.com/one-year-jeans-washing-tips">One Year Jeans and Washing Tips</a></p> <p>Let me know what you think, it goes live for everyone tomorrow morning. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-485 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:36:47 +0000 Klaus 485@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Wow, is it a year already? That's great, I can't wait to read your report, Ned! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501s/page/2#post-480 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:34:02 +0000 Edmund X White 480@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>hey guys, just wanted to post an update. I'm washing my years tonight after approximately a year of wear! i'm very excited to see how they turn out. I've taken some pictures and I'm writing up a big post about the last year with these jeans. stay tuned! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-471 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:05:21 +0000 StevenXX 471@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>On the Herman &amp; Katnip cartoons, should should what Katnip usually says, "That's logical" </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-461 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:47:58 +0000 Edmund X White 461@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>huh, that makes sense, thanks! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-458 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:44:04 +0000 StevenXX 458@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Personally, I dislike making a purchase ending up with the 'R' red tab. The red tab has been refered to as the 'device'. From what I understand, the red tab is done both ways to fully copyright the 'device'. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-456 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:56:04 +0000 Edmund X White 456@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>that's really interesting, i would have loved to hear what was in the info packet!</p> <p>I wonder why they do 1 in 8? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-455 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:12:31 +0000 501sandadderall 455@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>ok i went to my local Levis store today and asked the (really attractive might i add) sales woman about the red tab an she informed me it 1 in 8 that's an (R) tab. she was also going to give me a packet of info of great facts and such on levis but couldn't find it &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_sad.gif&quot; title=&quot;:(&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; im going to make a thread about what i saw in the store but i did want to put it out there that the (R) tab is 1 in 8 </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-450 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:52:51 +0000 501sandadderall 450@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>well the reason that i was wondering peoples preference when it came to the (r) and the Levis red tab is that 2 pairs of Levis made in the same exact style on the same day and in the same factory can have either red tab. Besides color and country of production its the only thing that can be different between 2 pairs that are the exact same style. this tab difference is also unlike the big E red tabs that denote the year or collection and are the same in every pair. i myself like to make sure i have at least a few pairs around that have the (R) red tag (im wearing light blue stf's with one right now) because it make them more unique (i have heard anywhere between 1 in 10 to 1 in a 100 are made like that). it would be great if anyone can tell me the cause of the (R) tab. so far the best answer i found was that when the machine that stitches the tabs runs out of thread they have to put through one that comes out blank and they still use the blanks because they only need to have the (R) on the tag and not the word Levis because its the red tag itself that is a registered trademark </p>