http://forums.nedsferatu.com/forum/introduce-yourself You can find us in da tub... en-US Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:55:03 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://forums.nedsferatu.com/search.php http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/gwg-cowboy-king-bluejeans#post-773 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:38:13 +0000 Daniel 773@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Lookin' to communicate with folks who may collect G.W.G. denim jeans or jean jackets.<br /> Prefer 1950's and 1960's styles, made from raw denim that was (potato starched). Also interessed in finding a pair of Boot Cut 'Scrubbies' size 32" X 32" with matching jeans vest, so 70's. These are hard to find and I'm down to my last pair. G.W.G. pearl snap shirts are also on my shopping list. (any condition - just want the labels showing.<br /> I still have a pretty complete G.W.G. denim wardrobe but always lookin' to add to it.<br /> If you're a fan of the brand, love to hear from you. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/any-levis-experts-could-use-some-help-with-saint-vincent-levis-jeans#post-1059 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 01:41:35 +0000 Langox510x 1059@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/
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<p>Hello,</p> <p>So today I was browsing St Vincent De Pauls, when i came across two pair of what looked to be authentic Levi's, and they were both brand new. There was is no label indicating their size nor was there the infamous Levis patch on the back of them, but when I tried them on they fit, and they're definitely of better quality than what I purchased the other day, a brand I had never heard of, with much lesser quality and for more than double the price, so at $12 I purchased both pair.</p> <p>My question is before I wear these new jeans out, are these of any value? Also, could these possibly be fakes? These jeans seem to fit me well, but I've also always been against wearing fake merchandise. I usually don't spend over $40 on a pair of jeans either, and would hate to wear these out if they were of any truly high value. Real or fake these jeans seem of pretty high quality.<br /> <img src="http://forums.vintagefashionguild.org/attachments/008-jpg.1384/"> </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/progress-picks-ned#post-875 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 03:10:15 +0000 Throwback 875@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hey folks! I'm hoping that more people will post pictures of the progress they're making with their jeans. Looking at some of the big denim forums, there are a lot of people posting updates about their 501s (alongside the designer jeans), but they don't have the down-to-earth spirit of the folks on here. Come on, guys! Let's see your jeans! </p> <p>On that note, I think it's sad this forum is (or at least has been lately) so quiet. I hope some lurkers will feel free to add to the conversation. Also, where is Ned? I haven't seen him around here since I joined up. We want to hear from you! Ned, I'm callin' you out! (cue <em>The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly</em> theme song! &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; ) </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/fuzzy-501s-blanket-denim#post-872 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:49:46 +0000 new501guy 872@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Howdy all.</p> <p>First, as a new-comer, let me just say "thank you" all for contributing to this site! After spending, like, hundreds of dollars ordering (and fortunately returning) numerous pairs of 501s and countless hours scouring the Internet looking for the 501s I used to know and love, this was really the only site where I got the straight dope on the alterations made to 501s and ideas about how to approach finding and caring for a pair. This led me to...</p> <p>purchase a pair of new with tags, deadstock, made in USA 501XX on ebay! Super cool, until I washed them. Now I have a problem I have never seen. The fabric is literally like a blanket. It is woolly and soft, not thin and firm (at least as much as denim usually is). There are even little hairs or threads that are coming out of the fabric and can be rolled with the palm. This is after three washes in hot water with 7th Generation detergent. The inside of the "denim" has the diagonal lines that it should, so I am not inclined to think these are real crude counterfeits. The seller was reputable.</p> <p>Anybody else have this problem? Am I doing something wrong? Thank you! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/first-pair-of-stf-501s#post-1053 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:00:01 +0000 wlmcad 1053@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I just got my first pair of 501 STF jeans. I am wearing them now and was wondering how much I need to worry about the dye staining upholstery or the leather seats in my car. Thanks, wlmcad </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/your-first-topic#post-1 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:17:37 +0000 Edmund X White 1@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi, I'm glad you've come to check out the forum! </p> <p>To begin participating, please <a href="http://forums.nedsferatu.com/register.php">register here</a> which is a quick and easy process. I have included the terms of service below that you agree to by registering; it should be natural and no problem for you to follow and is more a way of to keep things from getting out of hand than a strict rule book. </p> <p>After you register, you may want to head over to the <a href="http://forums.nedsferatu.com/forum/introduce-yourself">Welcome! Introduce Yourself!</a> forum and write us a post sharing a bit about yourself. You'll find that the people here are quite friendly, welcoming, and knowledgeable!</p> <p>This forum developed out of the comments on the <a href="http://blog.nedsferatu.com/levis-501xx">501 Shrink to Fit</a> articles. There really began to develop a sense of community among the folks who regularly comment there so a forum was a natural progression to help that community grow.</p> <p>If you are having technical issues with the blog or with the forum, please make a post in the miscellaneous section with a description of what's going on.</p> <p>If you are looking for some help and guidance on using this forum software check out the <a href="http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/howto-use-this-forum">Help: Howto Use this Forum</a> post.</p> <blockquote><p> Terms of Service:</p> <p>I have no doubt that you will use this forum for civilized and fruitful discussions! However these are great general rules that it's best to know up front I will be expecting from all members.</p> <ul> <li>No swearing.</li> <li>No ALL CAPS!</li> <li>Please do your research before responding to factual posts. If you are refuting particular facts, please supply links to reputable sources.</li> <li>Please do not respond to a post when you are angry -- take 10 minutes, figure out what is really bothering you, and then respond if you must.</li> <li>Passive aggressive posts are strongly discouraged. If you don't know what passive aggression is, please research the term before posting.</li> <li>Please respect your feelings. If you find that a thread is becoming unpleasant, please disengage. If you feel your temper rising with someone, please stop responding to him. Anger and escalation will never lead us to the truth. The truth can only result from a positive and challenging mutual exploration of facts and principles. Escalation is the responsibility of both parties.</li> <li>Please avoid Internet courage. Before posting, try to imagine speaking the words you are typing directly to the person, as if he were standing right in front of you. Also imagine that he is very large.</li> </ul> <p>I will work hard to ensure this is a place that is fun and helpful to use and I hope you will do the same. Talk to you soon!</p> </blockquote> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/3-year-old-pair-4-year-something-just-got-new-ones#post-940 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:42:30 +0000 readicculus 940@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>better pics to come. including side by side &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p> <img style="width: 590px;" src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301054_10150887368760573_693825572_21308620_927440830_n.jpg"> </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/cutoff-stf-501s#post-361 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:06:41 +0000 Tim 361@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>What do you guys think about cutting the legs off your ole beat up STFs and wearing em in the summer heat?</p> <p>Don't see many guys into cutoffs around in California. Cutoffs used to be popular. A very practical use for cast off 501s with holes in the knees. Wear em to the beach, etc. Useful on hot humid days.</p> <p>I wasn't gonna wear cutoffs this summer. But, found a ratty ole pair of cut off 501s at the bottom of my closet, and am enjoying em now. Little reaction when wearing these suckers on the street. So, if it pleases you, do it. What is the opinion of the rest of you? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/forums-open#post-913 Tue, 03 May 2011 12:07:56 +0000 Throwback 913@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Just letting anyone who's still unclear know that Ned did indeed decide to keep the forums going! Post away! &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/forums-closing#post-906 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:48:17 +0000 Edmund X White 906@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hey guys, I'm sorry I haven't been putting the time into this recently. I'm considering shutting down the forums here but keeping the main site with the original posts up. Comments will remain open.</p> <p>i've been looking for people from the community for a couple years now to write some material or moderate the forums but noone has really been interested. i'm still open to that so let me know if you are interested.</p> <p>I realize that a lot of you have gotten some really great value out of these forums and made some connections and friends. I know it is sad to see it go and if you have any serious recommendations I'm willing to hear them out.</p> <p>So, what do you think? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/the-top-501-reasons#post-905 Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:39:46 +0000 Throwback 905@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1egA4S5hGOE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1egA4S5hGOE</a> </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/posts-not-showing-up#post-894 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:08:04 +0000 Throwback 894@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Some of my posts have not been showing up... or they're only showing up when I'm signed on. Anyone else having this problem? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-levis-official-shrink-and-care-instructions#post-847 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:23:57 +0000 Throwback 847@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Here are some new instructions for STF 501's on the Levi's website: <a href="http://us.levi.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=2843574">http://us.levi.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=2843574</a></p> <p>Interesting that they suggest sizing true to size and using soap on the first shrink. Thoughts? </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/levi-blue#post-863 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:27:06 +0000 Blue 863@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi, My first pair of Levi's STF were purchased in the early 1960's at the Bullring in Birmingham, England and cost the princely sum of £4-19-11d at the time my weeks wage was £5-2-6d, so as you can see almost a weeks wages. Sat in the bath to shrink these wonderful denim's sent all the way across the pond from the USA. I recently bought another pair of 501's STF, the address of the sender was somewhere in Tucson, Arizona. Went through the same procedure of nearly half a century back -although slower in jumping in and out of the bath - not the same though, the ticket inside the Levi's said <em>made in Egypt</em>! Can you imagine a world in which an American icon is no longer produced in the States, how iconic is that? It's like getting a bespoke suit from Savile Row, London that ain't from Savile Row. Like buying a Panama hat that's not made in Ecuador. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/levis-commercials#post-552 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:19:56 +0000 Klaus 552@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>When I became a huge Levi's fan in the early 90ies and a pair of 501s was the most sought-after garment for teenagers, there were some of the best commercials ever for these great jeans on air. I tracked down the ones I like most on youtube, most of the are for the 501, some for Levi's in general.</p> <p>I'm not too sure if this link will work, if not, I guess you would need my username, which is mufi3.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/mufi3#p/c/E054A4AE816AC763" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/mufi3#p/c/E054A4AE816AC763</a> </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/introduction-hello-all#post-820 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:28:52 +0000 Throwback 820@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hello! Just making my quick introduction. </p> <p>Currently working on my first pair of STF 501's! (I would say "501xx," but the label on mine only says "501." Is this common?). I just did the soak yesterday, and the perfect fit that everyone talks about is great! I'm planning on doing another shrink in a few more days after wearing them exclusively, short of sleeping. </p> <p>I recently became interested in Levi's again (wore them when I was a kid). I thought I'd try different fits, so I bought a pair of 505's, 527's, and this pair of STF 501's. I wanted to get the original jean, so I thought why not go with the <em>original</em> original and get the STFs! I wanted to get Levi's again because I wanted to get more of a traditional masculine jean. For several years I've been wearing a baggier sort of jean. It never really fit me, and it only struck me recently that I should go for more of a man's man jean.</p> <p>My fiance and I are both very "old souls" despite being still fairly young, so it makes sense that I've gravitated toward good ol' Levi's. As I've been scouring the web (including this wonderful site!) I've become obsessed with the whole aura of Levi's and particularly the advertising for 501's from the late 80's and early 90's. Fantastic stuff!</p> <p>I think this is a fantastic site with a lot of wonderful, helpful people! I'm so glad I found it; you folks are great! Right now I'm specifically trying to get a feel for how to lighten, soften these jeans without ruining them... I've been carefully reading the cautionary tales of overwashing. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!</p> <p>Thanks, guys and gals! This is a great community here! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/new-501%c2%ae-original-shrink-to-fit-jeans-rigid-selvedge#post-674 Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:22:35 +0000 Gill123 674@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hello all,</p> <p>Has anyone seen these new Levis selvedge STF jeans? They are on the Levis website.</p> <p><a href="http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4213660&amp;cp=3146842.3146844.3146854.3194290.3692024" rel="nofollow">http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4213660&amp;cp=3146842.3146844.3146854.3194290.3692024</a></p> <p>A couple things seem different about these than the regular STFs.</p> <p>1. The fit description says "sits below waist" as opposed to all the other 501s which say they "sit at waist"<br /> 2. The photo portrays the jeans as a little slimmer and lower rise than the other STF photos<br /> 3. The patch on the back says 501XX instead of just 501.<br /> 4. Ive never owned a pair of selvedge denim, but i assume the denim is a bit higher quality<br /> 5. the full price is $98 on the levis website as opposed to $40 for the regular STFs<br /> 6. The selvedge STFs only seem to come in length 34 or less. I called a couple Levis retail stores. Not many of them carry the selvedge STFs, but some more major stores do. I called the Georgetown, DC store. I asked about the 34 length and she said that is the longest that they come in. She said that it is truly a 35 though, even though it says 34. So I guess they incorporated the shrinking into the size.</p> <p>Having had 2 pairs of the regular STFs and loving them, I compulsively ordered a pair of these new Selvedge STFs. I normally get a 31x36 in the regulars. This time I got the 31x34 since that is the longest i could get. If it truly is a 31x35, this should be ok. I'm also thinking since they are a little more low rise, that they will sit a little lower and this will add some length for cuffing, etc.</p> <p>Anyone had any experience with these? Do they wear, fade, contrast better? I also plan on doing these really well. No washing for AT LEAST a year. </p> <p>On another note, i was recently in a levis store and noticed some new signage next to the STFs. They no longer are recommending that you size up in the waist. Levis, themselves, is advertising a shrinking process very similar to what everyone on this forum does. True waist size...true fit...get them long and cuff. Wear them for a year and then soak, etc. Very interesting - i think it is catching on. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/the-dilemma-of-the-ripped-out-crotch-501s#post-794 Sun, 17 Oct 2010 02:52:47 +0000 atdawn 794@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I have found great info on your site but wanted to get my conclusions confirmed here on the board. For the past year or so my husband has been wearing the stonewash 501s. They have a VERY short lifespan (like 8 weeks or so) before the crotch is ripped out of them. There are a couple things that I think may be factors: 1) he has a VERY tall truck that must be "climbed" into many times each day and 2) he has a more athletic build with larger thighs. </p> <p>Back in the mid 90s he was wearing what I think must have been the STF because they were the very very dark raw denim and he worked physical labor 7 days a week and never tore out a crotch. </p> <p>So, I am thinking he should go back to the stf for a more sturdy denim. Is that true? I am thinking I understand the stf has a double stitched inseam. Is that right? He will want them washed on a more regular basis than many of you guys here for sure. He won't give up his 501s and wears them everyday. Will washing the stf on a regular basis give them a funky look that he won't like?</p> <p>Thanks for your help! </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/501-selvedge#post-777 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:57:28 +0000 ian 777@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hey guys, it's been a while.</p> <p>Levi's recently came out with a 501 stf selvedge. Anybody have any experience with these?</p> <p><a href="http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4213660&amp;camp=sf_google" rel="nofollow">http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4213660&amp;camp=sf_google</a> </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/levis-in-the-movie-tremors#post-420 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:00:22 +0000 Klaus 420@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Are any "Tremors" fans here? Kevin Bacon and Fred Ward are wearing Levi's jeans in this movie. Ward's jeans are looking like 505s to me, Bacon may wear them, too. The are nice, slim looking. Bacon wears a Levi's denim jacket with a brown collar but <em>no</em> lining. As far as I know the lined jackets had a brown corduroy collar, so this one is interesting. I always thought it might be leather. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/which-jeansbrands-do-you-preferlike#post-435 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:20:08 +0000 Klaus 435@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Of course the majority in this forum is into STFs, and so am I. In my opinion, LS&amp;Co's 501 STFs are the only original jeans. They started it all. It's really amazing how this great product survived essentially unchange over such a long period of time. </p> <p>However, I do like jeans/denim in general and do like other styles and brands, too. For me, jeans have always been an American product. Therefore, I prefer the Big Three (Levi's, Lee, Wrangler). Coming to think of it, I do not own any other brands except one pair of Guess jeans (I'm still looking for the screen accurate version of Back to the Future) and two custom made jeans. I am not interested in other brands, but that doesn't mean there aren't other jeans that couldn't tempt me.</p> <p>I love rigid jeans. The look is classic, and it fascinates me when looking at a pair of faded jeans to think of how differently they looked when they were new and starchy. Every now and then I take all my pairs out of the closet and inspect them. I love stonewashed jeans, too. From a purist's point of view this may be despicable, but that's the way I am. As long as they finish has an even wash (no artifical whiskers and stuff). I grew up with them and loved them, there were no dark indigo washes available in the late 80ies/early 90ies in Austria.</p> <p>I'm not very much into "coloured" (twill) jeans. Jeans are blue to me, the twill version simply don't have the look. There are/were coloured denim jeans (the new STFs, for example), but as I said, jeans are blue.</p> <p>There are the Vintage lines, each of the Big Three has them. I once had the 1901 501XX model. But when talking about jeans I usually have styles in mind which the average Joe can afford.</p> <p>Fit-wise, a regular fit suits my body most. This would be 505 or 13MWZ territory. I don't know the "new" 505s, I heard they are too baggy. I only know the 90ies/late 80ies cut (slightly tapered), they fit me well. I had a look at the Lee regular fit jeans, they are reasonably priced and the fit looks good to me. What I like about them (as well as Wrangler's Cowboy Cut jeans) are the high back pockets. Who wants the back pocket on the thigh? That's a downside of Levi's 505s, the pockets are way too low.</p> <p>The '93 501 model has a great fit for me. The leg opening isn't too big, this model has a slight taper. The new ones are straight.</p> <p>13MWZs are good, the thigh could be a little slimmer. A perfect fit for my body could be a mixture of them with the 936DEN slim fit style. Wrangler's indigo color doesn't look as "classy" as LS&amp;Co's and the broken twill denim weave doesn't have the classic denim look, these are slight downsides for me. What I do like are the colored jeans from this style, here the bwoken twill weave does it for me.</p> <p>I haven't tried Wrangler Rugged Wear jeans, but their regular fit style might be worth a try.</p> <p>One thing that bothers me a lot recently are labels, trademarks and such stuff. When looking at clothes I almost get the feeling of looking at advertisments. So on some jeans I do remove them, this works well on rigid jeans as there will be no sign there was something sewn onto them after one or two washings. I quite like the look of "naked" back pockets, too, so sometimes I remove the stitching. Of course I do have unaltered jeans as well, I just like variety. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/do-you-think-these-would-look-good-with-a-pair-of-stf-501s#post-751 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:38:06 +0000 shelby 751@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p><a href="http://shop.pacsun.com/Guys/sneakers/Desert-Taupe-Boot/index.pro" rel="nofollow">http://shop.pacsun.com/Guys/sneakers/Desert-Taupe-Boot/index.pro</a></p> <p>there are two other colors besides these too</p> <p>and a different pair of shoes...</p> <p><a href="http://www.sperrytopsider.com/store/SiteController/sperry/productdetails?stockNumber=0561332&amp;showDefaultOption=true&amp;skuId=" rel="nofollow">http://www.sperrytopsider.com/store/SiteController/sperry/productdetails?stockNumber=0561332&amp;showDefaultOption=true&amp;skuId=</a>***7********0561332*M090&amp;productId=7-103710&amp;catId=cat90046DM</p> <p>and... one more,<br /> <a href="http://www.sperrytopsider.com/store/SiteController/sperry/productdetails?stockNumber=0687079&amp;showDefaultOption=true&amp;skuId=" rel="nofollow">http://www.sperrytopsider.com/store/SiteController/sperry/productdetails?stockNumber=0687079&amp;showDefaultOption=true&amp;skuId=</a>***7********0687079*M070&amp;productId=prod340009&amp;catId=cat90046DM</p> <p>thanks for your opinions </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/ask#post-641 Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:54:36 +0000 bebekbaik 641@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>I just bought two pieces STF, indigo and black color, size 34X34<br /> and my waist size 32X30 ..<br /> I want to soak in COLD water so that indigo is not lost .. I want to ask, how long to soak in cold water to fit in my waist?</p> <p>thanks </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/hello-to-the-forum-and-looking-into-501-stfs#post-626 Fri, 28 May 2010 20:31:22 +0000 Scribbles 626@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Like most it seems that I found the forum here after finding Ned's blog posts about STF 501's during a web search.</p> <p>I am interested in denim jeans now, but I have to admit that during my teenage years I largely rejected blue jeans, along with most of the other values of my generation. I spent most of my time as a teen in twill cargo pants, camo army fatigues, or kahkis(for dressing up). </p> <p>It was only after a while after highschool that I came to appreciate jeans, outside of my previous experience. In high school what I knew as jeans were poorly fitting, generally light blue, washed out, baggy pinstripe pants, often times with a horrible fake whiskering on them.</p> <p>A few years after highschool I realized I could keep the few pairs of jeans I had darker and closer to the nice indigo of a new jean simply by only washing them inside out, only did I notice and start to appreciate the more interesting aspects of denim. The genuine fades and whiskers(and lack of pinstriping) you get when jeans are properly cared for and of at least a certain minimum original quality, such as the Levis 501's. Even if some have said the quality of Levi's has gone down over the years I must say there are certainly far worse choices.</p> <p>I've had ridged jeans before, but I'm certainly looking forward to getting my hands on a real pair of shrink to fit 501's. Unfortunately the local stores here primarily stock washed jeans, along with a smaller selection of ridged jeans. So it will be a bit longer before I can make a trip to a store with a decent selection. </p> <p>Size-wise from what I understand I might want something in the range of 30x33 for STF or maybe 30x34, In the rest of my wardrobe a 32 inch waist is far to large, 30 inch fits well but is still just a bit roomy, if I wanted to go without a belt, as many seem to do, I would guess a 29inch might be an option. However I am concerned that after a soaking a 29inch waist it might be just a bit too small. For length 30inch is generally just a slight bit too short and I wear anything with a 30 inch inseam lower on my waist to compensate, 32 inch inseam seams a bit too long, and even when wearing them natural I tend to destroy the hems quickly. I've never cuffed a pair of jeans and generally wear them true to size(or as close as possible), I'll have to see once I get my first pair of STFs how I feel about the cuffs while wearing them raw. </p> <p>My best estimate of my true current size is 29 1/2 x 31, a bit hard to find a decent fit. I don't seem to find many pairs of anything with a 31inch inseam, it always seems to jump from 30 to 32, but it maybe its just a side effect poor local selection.</p> <p>Outside of my intro post and talk of STF 501's I'm looking forward to making another post concerning my recent denim interests/activities; Small teaser, they are Levi's, and they haven't been discussed on the forum as far as I've seen. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/poscogrubbs-introduction#post-577 Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:44:18 +0000 poscogrubb 577@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hi y'all,</p> <p>I can't believe it has taken me this long to find this forum!</p> <p>I am a 501xx fan, born in the 1970s, which dates me as an 80's kid. In pre-teen years, I loved seeing tight Levi's jeans on people, and all the more when they were worn down and a little ripped, and combined with a pair of Converse Chuck Taylor high-tops. I especially liked the fade pattern on the outer seam when the two pieces of denim are flattened apart. I don't know how to describe it. For a long time, many jeans had the two pieces of denim sewed together on the inside of the outer seam. But on 501's, they were flattened apart, giving a symmetrical look to the fade pattern. Does ANYONE know what I'm talking about?!? Anyway, that, and the button fly drew me to 501's, although I didn't really know the model number until I got my first pair around 7th grade! They were a dark, rinsed blue, not STF.</p> <p>Later, during college, I realized what the difference was between 501 and 501xx (pre-shrunk vs. STF -- but not nowadays), and I also noticed the change in denim weight. I started shopping at second-hand clothing stores, and I noticed that 501's of the 70's and 80's definitely had a "richer" feel to them, and nice fade patterns, too.</p> <p>Also noticed (and confused by) the loosening in fit, the change in labeling (use of capital XX instead of lower case xx), the deeper V back-pocket stitching, and the double-stitched inseam using two yellow threads instead of the orange thread and blue thread. Why did I notice such details, and why did I yearn for the jeans exactly as they were in my teen years? I don't know.</p> <p>Anyway, I still like wearing (out) my STF 501's, and I look forward to participating in the discussions here, when my time permits.</p> <p>Some other details:</p> <p>I measure W33, L32.</p> <p>My latest pair of STF's is W34, L34, started wearing in January 2010. It has gone through two bath-tub soakings, no launderings. I haven't been wearing it daily; maybe about 30 hours a week. It's a little loose; should have gone with W33.</p> <p>I'm Asian American; live in Los Angeles. So, yeah, I'm a city kid, so I don't wear jeans for hard work generally. But I like to see (and touch) jeans that have been through genuine hard work. mmmmm. maybe it's a fetish?</p> <p>--posco</p> <p>EDITED to add photos to illustrate outer seam fade patterns:</p> <p><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/u9MvG5tw2ckQfAxgqHZHxg?feat=directlink">Levi's 501, preshrunk, bought in 2003, made in Guatemala:</a></p> <p><img src="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/u9MvG5tw2ckQfAxgqHZHxg?feat=directlink"></p> <p><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hlBgTVEN_f8Gc7kUC6ZS_A?feat=directlink">Levi's 501 STF, bought in 2008, made in Dominican Republic, with "symmetrical" fade pattern:</a></p> <p><img src="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hlBgTVEN_f8Gc7kUC6ZS_A?feat=directlink"> </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/trip-to-levis-store-no-more-xx-wtf-wtf-wtf#post-457 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:01:49 +0000 501sandadderall 457@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>as my last post in the Red tag thread stated that i decided to take a trip to a Levis store to have a few questions answered. ill get to the wtf parts in a second. but the only problem is i think i left with more than when i got there. so my first question was answered about how many (r) red tabs are made. the answer was 1 in 8 after i corrected the sales attendant that it cant be 7 in 8. my second question was why they existed and got a "i have no idea" from all of the staff. no this is where things started to get really f'in weird. like always i was drawn to the stf's and the store kinds decided to go with just 1 color, rigid aka indigo. i was looking for the black or night colors so that i could write a follow up on another post but they had none. thats when i saw the new stf's </p> <p>this has to go in it own paragraph</p> <p>i dont know if this is normal or if something f'ed up is going on (because all of the stf's i have seen have an XX after to 501 on the tag) but when i was looking at the stf's on the rack most of them had no xx after the 501 on the tag. i called the nice clerk over and asked her what the hell was going on and she told me that the XX denoted that it was a stf and i told her it was a little more than that but after a little banter i showed her 2 pairs of stf's off the rack and some had the xx and others didn't. she had no explanation for this at all. now i have grown up with a guy who is an expert on Levi's (i would go into detail about him but it would take forever) but he could tell about when and where a pair of jeans was produced by the color of the red dye on the tag so i looked at that first. there wasn't any change in color that i could tell but the print of the 501 and the sizes was definitely in a thinner type set. so am i just confused about something or is this a wrf moment where they are getting rid of the XX after the 501 on the tag. if this is some kind of error i would love to know cus ill go out and buy a few pairs right now</p> <p>the next thing i saw that was really cool was a pair of 501's that was preshrunk and very lightly vintaged. they came in one color that i saw which was gray but what i thought was so f'n cool was the tag was leather. yes real leather not thicker card stock or anything but real dark leather. they cost about 20 dollars more than the stf's but a real leather tag... how cool.</p> <p>please people respond with more info and such because the people in the store could not answer most of my questions. i want to call Levi's but i am holding off until i get some feedback from you </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/live-blog-tonight-jumping-in-the-tub-with-my-501stfs-in-5-min#post-556 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:14:51 +0000 501sandadderall 556@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>yeah those 501 stf's i got in December, im jumping into the tub with them tonight for their first wash. i will be online all night tonight while shrinking them because im that bored and i have a netbook. the shrinking will start at 10:20 eastern standard time in the usa. if you have any questions please ask cus this will be boring as hell. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/circle-r-or-full-levis-red-tab#post-447 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:10:58 +0000 501sandadderall 447@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>i was just wondering if any of you had a preference on which tab you prefer. i myself like the blank (r) red tab because it is something that is more uncommon and makes my jeans more unique. i just got 2 pairs of 501xx stf's in the mail today and i was so happy that the indigo pair i got was a (r) tab because i normally spend so much time hunting them down in stores. so that's what motivated this post, i would really like to hear what you guys think. </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/eds-introduction#post-301 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:36:33 +0000 Ed 301@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>Hello from NJ. I discovered Ned's FAQ while googling &quot;501xx&quot;,still reading the other articles at this moment LOL.</p> <p>It all started when my brother gave me a pair of 501xx last year,afterwards I pretty much stopped wearing my other jeans other than the (non-501) torn,grass and oil stained ones I use for yard work etc. </p> <p>A new pair arrived today in the mail,but I'm a little concerned &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_sad.gif&quot; title=&quot;:(&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; My first pair are made in Colombia,this new pair is from Mexico. The inseam is supposed to be only an inch difference (original 29,new 30) but they look/fit much longer. When I tried them on the legs felt quite baggy. Is there a 501xx STF and a 501 non-xx STF? The originals say 501XX at the bottom left of the label,the new ones don't. But the cardboard tag it came with say &quot;Shrink-To-Fit&quot;. Hopefully after the first tub marination (finished a few minutes ago) and overnight drip drying they'll fit like my originals. The new ones are Verde Rigids,the originals are Rigid Indigo to my knowledge...still waiting for an email back from my brother.</p> <p>By the way I bought these from Eastbay,was ordering t-shirts and sneakers and browsed through their Levis stuff. I placed an order from Langstons (where my brother got my originals AFAIK) but they're not shipping until the 12th &lt;img src=&quot;http://forums.nedsferatu.com/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_cry.gif&quot; title=&quot;:cry:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://forums.nedsferatu.com/topic/community#post-493 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:40:39 +0000 bisaja210 493@http://forums.nedsferatu.com/ <p>No bad community, very no bad </p>